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his relationship with egypt, assert his new role in the region. that's why he sent his prime minister to gaza. you're seeing more foreign dignitaryies visit gaza than has in the last four years. >> eliot: is there anything that he could really do? >> it's really striking that obama has taken the tone he has. before you pointed out that the british have said don't have a ground invasion. obama has not said the french work with qatar which is not--obama has been completely in their corner. why. he is not running for office. he doesn't need the jewish vote. he needs to build up credibility with israel as he understands now that he didn't in the first term if he is going to work with them iran, or, i assume he's workingthinking about reconstituting the peace process. >> i think you that's absolutely right. very insightful. >> is hamas proxy for iran. >> no, it's operating on its own and its getting more support. four years ago it's support came from syria and iran. now it has turkey, qatar it's less dependent on iran than it ever has been. >> eliot: u
his relationship with egypt, assert his new role in the region. that's why he sent his prime minister to gaza. you're seeing more foreign dignitaryies visit gaza than has in the last four years. >> eliot: is there anything that he could really do? >> it's really striking that obama has taken the tone he has. before you pointed out that the british have said don't have a ground invasion. obama has not said the french work with qatar which is not--obama has been completely in their...
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, which are very significant because egypt is the lead, there is no one else, its egypt which is the lead with hamas. the u.s. is talking to the palestinians via egypt. obviously, israel is at the table with the egyptians. and we're hearing from the israelis as well that possibly they will be ready to announce some kind of cease-fire not far from now. that's consistent to what we have been hearing over the last several days. president netanyahu has said they would rather see this resolved diplomatically. they were pushing for the success of the diplomatic track while all the time preparing the military track at the same time in parallel in case the diplomacy didn't work. it seems to me particularly having told me earlier today, officials, that this was on hold, any kind of ground offensive to give diplomacy a chance to work, it seems that something must be coming to a head because secretary of state hillary clinton is on the way, as you say. she will be meeting. maybe there will be an announcement when she meets with prime minister netanyahu this evening here. >> it will be a late ni
, which are very significant because egypt is the lead, there is no one else, its egypt which is the lead with hamas. the u.s. is talking to the palestinians via egypt. obviously, israel is at the table with the egyptians. and we're hearing from the israelis as well that possibly they will be ready to announce some kind of cease-fire not far from now. that's consistent to what we have been hearing over the last several days. president netanyahu has said they would rather see this resolved...
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into the tunnels through egypt. that is not new. the nearly three years that i was there, that was a constant subject of discussion and controversy. this is a vast territory, much of it desert. not well policed and governed. a lot of competing local interests. those are contrary to those in some cases here. egypt is under taking a major role here and how they are able to succeed in that goes a long way to how the process goes forward. >> this may be a dumb question, when you are in these rooms, is there yelling or arguments or is it calm and rational? >> in my case, almost all of the di discussions were with one side at a time. there were few occasions of raised voices. the two did not come together. when we did have the brief meeti meetings between the prime men ster and the president, they were tense and straight forward. they made their points both sides. it will be some time before you get a representative in the same room. tough enough to get them in the same room with the palestinian authority which i say is c
into the tunnels through egypt. that is not new. the nearly three years that i was there, that was a constant subject of discussion and controversy. this is a vast territory, much of it desert. not well policed and governed. a lot of competing local interests. those are contrary to those in some cases here. egypt is under taking a major role here and how they are able to succeed in that goes a long way to how the process goes forward. >> this may be a dumb question, when you are in these...
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and egypt's president morsi is promising action. mideast presidential adviser ambassador dennis ross will join me. democratic women on the hill are firing back on their assault of susan rice. congressman bass will join me about that. chris christie and cory booker gearing up for a battle. is what drives us to broadcast the world's biggest events in 3d, or live to your seat high above the atlantic ocean. it's what drives us to create eco-friendly race tracks, batteries that power tomorrow's cars, nearly indestructible laptops, and the sustainable smart towns of the future. at panasonic, we're driven to make what matters most better. just another way we're engineering a better world for you. some people put everything intotheir name on the door, and their heart into their community. small business saturday is a day to show our support. a day to shop at stores owned by our friends and neighbors. and do our part for the businesses that do so much for us. on november 24th, let's get out and shop small. >>> hi, everybody. good morning. i'
and egypt's president morsi is promising action. mideast presidential adviser ambassador dennis ross will join me. democratic women on the hill are firing back on their assault of susan rice. congressman bass will join me about that. chris christie and cory booker gearing up for a battle. is what drives us to broadcast the world's biggest events in 3d, or live to your seat high above the atlantic ocean. it's what drives us to create eco-friendly race tracks, batteries that power tomorrow's...
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a bloody offensive seize key regional player egypt cutting off its diplomatic ties with israel and it's speculation that the flow of islamic fighters could soon head into gaza. and rising up against austerity millions of europeans sign up for block wide action against cuts with mass protests provoking the very heavy arm of the little. live from our new center here in moscow this is r.t. with international news and comment twenty four hours a day israel has launched a deadly military offensive against gaza with fighter jets and warships attacking the occupied territory the operation began with the airstrike assassination of the military leader of hamas the palestinian group pledged to open the gates of hell in return ation well for more let's now cross live to tom barton he's in tel aviv so tom what can you tell us at this stage. well the situation down on the south in the south of israel and also in gaza continues to escalate the moment israeli jets are still drawing sites throughout gaza twenty sites specifically mentioned by israeli defense sources they say they want to destroy terror
a bloody offensive seize key regional player egypt cutting off its diplomatic ties with israel and it's speculation that the flow of islamic fighters could soon head into gaza. and rising up against austerity millions of europeans sign up for block wide action against cuts with mass protests provoking the very heavy arm of the little. live from our new center here in moscow this is r.t. with international news and comment twenty four hours a day israel has launched a deadly military offensive...
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egypt case in point. i think this is a crisis and an emergency and we all hope that out of this can come not just a short-term cease-fire but an opportunity. i don't get the sense that that's there. the best case is to put things back and be look around for opportunities to get the process back on track. >> and to both of you, if there's ever been better evidence that life changes very quickly, take a look at the fact that the life can be a roller coaster that only days after or months, perhaps less than a month after he had secret service protection and entourage also we have seen that he's pumping gas, learning how to pump gas i guess or we'll assume he knew how to pump gas, but we've had a number of pictures of him at disney land on the roller coaster with his boys. >> look -- >> who -- sometimes people can lose a presidential election and continue to be a really phenomenal force in their party and in politics. i don't think this is going to be the case with mitt romney. he lost this election as you sa
egypt case in point. i think this is a crisis and an emergency and we all hope that out of this can come not just a short-term cease-fire but an opportunity. i don't get the sense that that's there. the best case is to put things back and be look around for opportunities to get the process back on track. >> and to both of you, if there's ever been better evidence that life changes very quickly, take a look at the fact that the life can be a roller coaster that only days after or months,...
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but now there are countries of equal importance, syria, egypt, iran, saudi arabia. everybody now has a big thing happening in their country. does that put more pressure now on the leaders of israel and the palestinians to come together and bang their heads together, get a deal done? >> i think so. the world focuses more on 130 palestinians killed, half of them terrorists, than 30,000 syrians, most of them civilians, killed by the assad government, and focus has been taken away from iran, which poses the greatest exstential threat, to the whole region this is a good time to sit down, try to negotiate what everybody knows would be the best solution for both parties it will not solve the hamas/gaza problem. but we can address the west bank problem. >> everybody seems to be nodding. a good moment to leave this for now. thank you, all, very much indeed. >> thank you. >> right back after a short break. e a lot of money. but today...( sfx: loud noise of metal object hitting the ground) things have been a little strange. (sfx: sound of piano smashing) roadrunner: meep meep.
but now there are countries of equal importance, syria, egypt, iran, saudi arabia. everybody now has a big thing happening in their country. does that put more pressure now on the leaders of israel and the palestinians to come together and bang their heads together, get a deal done? >> i think so. the world focuses more on 130 palestinians killed, half of them terrorists, than 30,000 syrians, most of them civilians, killed by the assad government, and focus has been taken away from iran,...
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the increased islamist influence in turkey and egypt. historically they have had a fairly decent working relationship between their militaries. a lot of the changes in domestic political structure in turkey have favored the rise of islam. so turkish military is no longer cooperating as closely with israel as they once were. that the same time we've seen te rise to power in egypt, that does not bode well for the future of egyptian israeli relations. the last one i want to make, in her introduction you said it is always about the money. the best way to do this conflict is a new front, economic front opened by the iranians against the israelis. manufacture rockets for about $1000 apiece. it cost the israelis 50,000 50,000-$100,000 to shoot these rockets down. every is under pressure from the sanctions against them, they're applying pressure against israel by supplying massive quantities of low-cost rockets. melissa: so how does that play out from their? who runs out of money first? >> it is bad news for israel. 50, 60 years ago the israelis
the increased islamist influence in turkey and egypt. historically they have had a fairly decent working relationship between their militaries. a lot of the changes in domestic political structure in turkey have favored the rise of islam. so turkish military is no longer cooperating as closely with israel as they once were. that the same time we've seen te rise to power in egypt, that does not bode well for the future of egyptian israeli relations. the last one i want to make, in her...
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he made this remark when he said hey, look, egypt of today is not the egypt of yesterday. the arab world of today is not the arab world of yesterday. but i think there are some real limits as well on the egyptians. one thing that we have to say since we're really beginning to talk about diplomacy, our president is in, i think, now in cambod cambodia. he has with him his secretary of state and his national security advi adviser. it's a remarkable development. when you ask, what is the role of the united states in this crisis, you are always told oh, they're on the phone. so it is phone diplomacy for the united states, and that's about all. >> reporter: ann marie slaughter, do you agree with that? should the u.s. be doing more here? >> well, at this point, it's not really clear what the u.s. can be doing because although the egyptians and the turks and the qataris all have a big incentive to see a cease-fire that lasts, and i think the u.s. does, too. none of us can want it more than the israeli and the palestinians do. you can't create a settlement unless the principles act
he made this remark when he said hey, look, egypt of today is not the egypt of yesterday. the arab world of today is not the arab world of yesterday. but i think there are some real limits as well on the egyptians. one thing that we have to say since we're really beginning to talk about diplomacy, our president is in, i think, now in cambod cambodia. he has with him his secretary of state and his national security advi adviser. it's a remarkable development. when you ask, what is the role of...
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egypt then and now took the lead in negotiating. the circumstances, though, are quite dramatically different in a geopolitical sense now. israel wants to stop the rocketing. clearly a desirable objective from their standpoint. and they want to make it to try to deter future action by making this punishment severe but what they don't want to do is lose egypt. a high strategic value to israel is its peace treaties with israel and jordan and -- >> very difficult for president morsi. >> very difficult. >> he's in a very, very difficult position. he's obviously trying to not alienate the americans and the israelis, but at the same time, he's very aware of a lot of rising anger amongst the arab community about what is going on there. >> that's right. every leader in this conflict and in this region faces competing pressures. for morsi, it is just the ones you described. they are the muslim brotherhood. hamas is an offshoot. mubarak opposed and severely contained the muslim brotherhood. morsi is now part of them or they are part of their e
egypt then and now took the lead in negotiating. the circumstances, though, are quite dramatically different in a geopolitical sense now. israel wants to stop the rocketing. clearly a desirable objective from their standpoint. and they want to make it to try to deter future action by making this punishment severe but what they don't want to do is lose egypt. a high strategic value to israel is its peace treaties with israel and jordan and -- >> very difficult for president morsi. >>...
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egypt is playing a pivotal roll and it could give us insight as to what egypt is or is becoming. >> that's right. there is a question of trust and they do trust the new president. he is a member of the muslim brotherhood. that has lead to questions of trust. and also the fact that it has appeared that egypt in the fledgling government has been helping to insight violence in the region and not actually stop it. but what is interesting, it is amazing how a billion dollars in aid -- u.s. aid can get one's attention. you can see him playing a constructive role two days after threatening them. >> egypt, watch what you do and how do you it. you are teetering with the congress with your aide being cutoff if you keep inciting violence between the israelis and the palestinians. >> and interesting because it was just two months ago where president obama basically said he is not sure egypt is now an ally. here we are two months later. the president was on the phone with president morsey three times in the last 24 hours. they are enough of an ally that the president clearly needs them and relying on e
egypt is playing a pivotal roll and it could give us insight as to what egypt is or is becoming. >> that's right. there is a question of trust and they do trust the new president. he is a member of the muslim brotherhood. that has lead to questions of trust. and also the fact that it has appeared that egypt in the fledgling government has been helping to insight violence in the region and not actually stop it. but what is interesting, it is amazing how a billion dollars in aid -- u.s. aid...
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remember, gaza shares a common border with egypt and it's a very important connection. so you get the egyptians, you get the turks, the qataris, maybe the saudis to weigh in and the israelis to provide the space and time to allow this diplomacy to take hold, and maybe, although nobody ever lost money betting against arab-israeli peace, maybe, just maybe, you can get out of this. >> aaron david miller. thank you, sir. >> always a pleasure, don. >>> cyberspace is part of the israel-hamas battleground. ahead, how both sides are pushing their messages on twitter and other social media. two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open, and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. and bp's also committed to america. we support nearly 250,000 jobs and invest more here than anywhere else. we're working to fuel america for generations to come. our commitment has never been stronger. >>> i want you to take a look
remember, gaza shares a common border with egypt and it's a very important connection. so you get the egyptians, you get the turks, the qataris, maybe the saudis to weigh in and the israelis to provide the space and time to allow this diplomacy to take hold, and maybe, although nobody ever lost money betting against arab-israeli peace, maybe, just maybe, you can get out of this. >> aaron david miller. thank you, sir. >> always a pleasure, don. >>> cyberspace is part of the...
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egypt is run by the muslim brotherhood. although the prime minister stepped in, he stepped in calling israel the aggressor. turkey has turned in another direction against israel. >> it called israel terrorist state. >> there are new challenges and i do not know which way this is going to go. >> if you look at this over the long span of the last 20 to 25 years, everything that charles says in some respects has merit. but you can onto this one step at a time -- cannot do this one step at a time. at first, israel did not want to negotiate with the plo and viewed them as the worst of the worst. now they are the better part of the equation. now they will not negotiate with hamas. hamas is being pressured from more radical elements. each time you refuse to make a deal with people you detest, there is somebody worse. the arab community is a different community, and the pressure is coming much more ardently in that direction. >> the relationship between the u.s. and israel will not change. what has changed is what colby address, an
egypt is run by the muslim brotherhood. although the prime minister stepped in, he stepped in calling israel the aggressor. turkey has turned in another direction against israel. >> it called israel terrorist state. >> there are new challenges and i do not know which way this is going to go. >> if you look at this over the long span of the last 20 to 25 years, everything that charles says in some respects has merit. but you can onto this one step at a time -- cannot do this...
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he was investing a lot of his own capital with president obama was in this new partner in egypt. pete: speaking of key players, can you tell us about secretary clinton's role in all this and how that's played out? >> they were on their last buddy-buddy trip, president obama and secretary clinton and in bangkok together and visiting the reclining buddha. they were making jokes about the 2016. and joe biden's head was exploding back here. and suddenly she's on a plane zipping out of phnom penh to say we're on our way and directly involve ourselves in this. she has not played this shuttle diplomacy role in the middle east quite the way that some of her predecessors had, right? obviously kissinger and jim baker and condi rice to various stents have been these -- back and forth missions. this is her first one in her own twilight days as secretary of state. she's getting ready to step down come inauguration in january. >> and what do you think the relationship between obama and morsi tells us about the future for the region? >> well, they see this as a possible key to beginning to unlo
he was investing a lot of his own capital with president obama was in this new partner in egypt. pete: speaking of key players, can you tell us about secretary clinton's role in all this and how that's played out? >> they were on their last buddy-buddy trip, president obama and secretary clinton and in bangkok together and visiting the reclining buddha. they were making jokes about the 2016. and joe biden's head was exploding back here. and suddenly she's on a plane zipping out of phnom...
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both talk to egypt. egypt now is the middle man. is clinton -- what is secretary clinton hoping to achieve in her talks with morsi? right now, we're only dealing with the cease-fire, really no long-term solution. >> right. and that's a very good point. so what we're told here at the state department is she has the most immediate objective which is to try to facilitate and help in some fashion to bring about what the state department is calling deescalation. that is the fighting stops, the firing stops, the rockets stop. and, of course, there is no invasion or anything like that. so that's number one. but number two is the state department explains that it gives space, theoretically, at least, for some of those longer, maybe medium-term to longer issues, like the blockade of gaza, which the hamas definitely wants to stop. those issues might be able to be addressed. so there is kind of, you know, short-term, medium-term and long-term would be peace between israel and the palestinians, but that's very far away. but those are the immedi
both talk to egypt. egypt now is the middle man. is clinton -- what is secretary clinton hoping to achieve in her talks with morsi? right now, we're only dealing with the cease-fire, really no long-term solution. >> right. and that's a very good point. so what we're told here at the state department is she has the most immediate objective which is to try to facilitate and help in some fashion to bring about what the state department is calling deescalation. that is the fighting stops, the...
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that's egypt. that's the egyptian border right up next to this tiny strip of land where the fighting is happening in gaza. that's why part of why this was such a big deal. egypt and israel shaking hands. thank you jimmy carter. the peace treaty between this important country, the nation of israel. but jimmy carter, it turns out, is not only the only live american historical connection to this critically-important relationship that you see diagrammed there. the president of egypt who is shaking hands with the prime minister of israel and sealing this peace treaty between these countries, this president of egypt, the handshake was in march of 1979. two and a half years later, he was assassinated. how did he come to be assassinated? it came from this guy. this guy right now is in prison in the united states in a federal prison complex in north carolina thanks to his role in the first bombing of the world trade center back in the '90s. after he called for the assassination, who made the peace deal with
that's egypt. that's the egyptian border right up next to this tiny strip of land where the fighting is happening in gaza. that's why part of why this was such a big deal. egypt and israel shaking hands. thank you jimmy carter. the peace treaty between this important country, the nation of israel. but jimmy carter, it turns out, is not only the only live american historical connection to this critically-important relationship that you see diagrammed there. the president of egypt who is shaking...
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of course washington with strong ties to israel, and then you have egypt. they already have their peace treaty with israel, 1979 camp david accord. they said they will not interrupte disrupt that peace treaty, but egypt has strong relations with hamas. hamas was born out of the muslim brotherhood. that's why much of the world is eager to see if the two countries can get together and get these two sides to stop fighting. diplomatic efforts are continuing at this hour, world. >>> and there's no word i take it, reza, whether there will be joint public statements by the egyptian president and hillary clinton? we don't have an indication one way or another yet, do we? >> reporter: the last statements we received from the president's office was that there would be a press conference. that's what we are waiting for. we anticipated in meeting to take place earlier this afternoon local time in cairo with the press conference to follow. this meeting has gone on longer than we expected. >> we'll see if they announce some sort of cease-fire or some sort of great that h
of course washington with strong ties to israel, and then you have egypt. they already have their peace treaty with israel, 1979 camp david accord. they said they will not interrupte disrupt that peace treaty, but egypt has strong relations with hamas. hamas was born out of the muslim brotherhood. that's why much of the world is eager to see if the two countries can get together and get these two sides to stop fighting. diplomatic efforts are continuing at this hour, world. >>> and...
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your view from egypt, obviously very changed situation in egypt. fouad saying there is rhetoric in support of hamas, in the end [ inaudible ] like many here in gaza would hope. what do you see? >> i think that's right. there is only so much that egypt could do. what they're trying to do is getting more and more complicated. president mubarak used to hold himself out as a kind of honest broker between hamas and israel. he wasn't, really. he was on the israeli side, more or less, and all the discussions were handled through the intelligence agencies here within the egyptian government. now we see the intelligence agencies talking to the israeli side where they have long-standing contacts and the office of the president, president muhammed morsi of the muslim brotherhood who of course is a long-time fellow islamist ideological ally of hamas, handling the other side. so there are all these talks within the egyptian government to parallel the talks between hamas and israel. what we're seeing the egyptian government begin to do which is i think really ve
your view from egypt, obviously very changed situation in egypt. fouad saying there is rhetoric in support of hamas, in the end [ inaudible ] like many here in gaza would hope. what do you see? >> i think that's right. there is only so much that egypt could do. what they're trying to do is getting more and more complicated. president mubarak used to hold himself out as a kind of honest broker between hamas and israel. he wasn't, really. he was on the israeli side, more or less, and all...
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they didn't say egypt. they obviously have to use egypt because egypt is in control. that is remain -- it remains up in the air how much egypt will do. that will determine if there is a renewal of the war. what is important is a complicated game for netanyahu. he was under pressure from the israelis in the south and from the seasonals who were mobilized, had to leave their jobs. he decided he wouldn't, a political hit. he did it to tell obama i will tellp you out and go easy and pull back. he understands that the big game is iran. he doesn't want to blow his relationship with obama over this. >> shannon: they also said part of this is israel will stop the targeted assassinations. we haven't heard israel say they would agree with that. having taken out hamas' leader not that long ago. >> that is the goal. it's potent for israel should it strike around is a looming question. over this military operation. they are not going to agree -- under any term of the deal to ever say oh,, it's not going to take out the most powerful people. of course they are. they are trying to t
they didn't say egypt. they obviously have to use egypt because egypt is in control. that is remain -- it remains up in the air how much egypt will do. that will determine if there is a renewal of the war. what is important is a complicated game for netanyahu. he was under pressure from the israelis in the south and from the seasonals who were mobilized, had to leave their jobs. he decided he wouldn't, a political hit. he did it to tell obama i will tellp you out and go easy and pull back. he...
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egypt? >>guest: from egypt. that is the positive aspect, the united states saying to egypt you are responsbile. can we talk iran? that is a question we will have to see. time will tell. egypt now has the ability to come to the global stage and we are making them true to them selves. >>trace: everyone is asking, one hour into the cease-fire, how long will it last? >> more ahead on the crisis in the middle east. well look at the united states role in the negotiations. after five months on medical leave, this is now breaking, a federal investigation underway congressman jesse jackson is stepping down. the reaction in washington, dc, is next. we use this board to compare car insurance rates side by side so you get the same coverage, often for less. that's one smart board. what else does it do, reverse gravity? [ laughs ] [ laughs ] [ whooshing ] tell me about it. why am i not going anywhere? you don't believe hard enough. a smarter way to shop around. now that's progressive. call or click today.
egypt? >>guest: from egypt. that is the positive aspect, the united states saying to egypt you are responsbile. can we talk iran? that is a question we will have to see. time will tell. egypt now has the ability to come to the global stage and we are making them true to them selves. >>trace: everyone is asking, one hour into the cease-fire, how long will it last? >> more ahead on the crisis in the middle east. well look at the united states role in the negotiations. after five...
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we saw it in egypt. how 16 egyptian soldiers were murdered because of the spillover of terrorism from gaza, ham as. >> all right. thank you very much for coming on and talking about the israeli side of this. we appreciate your time. i want now to get to the other side of the conflict and bring in the chief representative of the general delegation of the palestine liberation organization to the united states. good to talk to you, ambassador and to talk to you again. >> thank you. >> the other day when you were on this program before the cease-fire and i asked you whether you supported hamas, you said when it comes to our differences with hamas we have differences practically. this is normal. but what is happening in the gaza strip, a direct attack on innocent civilians, we're witnessing a deliberate escalation on the part of the israelis to cause as much possible civilian deaths." given that, do you think the cease-fire will last? >> well, we hope that it will last. but it was interesting listening to the
we saw it in egypt. how 16 egyptian soldiers were murdered because of the spillover of terrorism from gaza, ham as. >> all right. thank you very much for coming on and talking about the israeli side of this. we appreciate your time. i want now to get to the other side of the conflict and bring in the chief representative of the general delegation of the palestine liberation organization to the united states. good to talk to you, ambassador and to talk to you again. >> thank you....
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there's a big question about the border between gaza and egypt. the agreement with that will be opened as well. >> according to a senior obama administration official, it was the president's -- president obama's two phone calls today that, quote, closed the deal. is that accurate according to your understanding of how things played out? and what did the u.s. offer to various parties in order to maybe sweeten the deal? >> well, president obama played an outstanding leadership role in helping to achieve the cease-fire. also secretary of state clinton who shuttled without stop between jerusalem and cairo and was also instrumental in achieving the agreement. the sweetener was support for israel. support for israel diplomatmatically. standing beside us. upholding our right to defend ourselves in the face of hamas terror. that was very important for us. also it's important for that iron dome missile system which you saw working, anderson, and working so outstandingly, taking down about 85% to 90% of all the incoming rockets and denying hamas the opportu
there's a big question about the border between gaza and egypt. the agreement with that will be opened as well. >> according to a senior obama administration official, it was the president's -- president obama's two phone calls today that, quote, closed the deal. is that accurate according to your understanding of how things played out? and what did the u.s. offer to various parties in order to maybe sweeten the deal? >> well, president obama played an outstanding leadership role in...
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egypt has certainly been in the forefront of these kinds of talks? >> yeah, that's what she's doing and meeting tonight for two hours with benjamin netanyahu, the foreign minister, et cetera. and then she goes tomorrow, wednesday, to ramallah, where she meets with mahmoud abbas and then to cairo. and that's really the key, one of the keys, because the -- mohamed morsi has influence with hamas and hopefully can do something. i think that he's right. they haven't been able to really change much of anything, and now the president who didn't want to get involved for a while or found that it was kind of useless not going anyplace is involved by sending dramatically the secretary of state. >> at some point, do you see the recognition of some sort of hamas? >> no,ut i really have to disagree with my friend fuad. i don't think it's right to say barack obama is not pulled by the middle east and isn't fully committed to the same vision of peace between the israelis and the palestinians that bill clinton and george w. bush were. i think he has been stymied and
egypt has certainly been in the forefront of these kinds of talks? >> yeah, that's what she's doing and meeting tonight for two hours with benjamin netanyahu, the foreign minister, et cetera. and then she goes tomorrow, wednesday, to ramallah, where she meets with mahmoud abbas and then to cairo. and that's really the key, one of the keys, because the -- mohamed morsi has influence with hamas and hopefully can do something. i think that he's right. they haven't been able to really change...
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it's going great in egypt, right, bob? great in egypt. >> bob: you have no evidence they ginned that up. ridiculous. >> eric: night of the attack i went to youtube to check it out. there were 3,000 views of that. there were more people protesting than who had seen the video at that point. >> bob: but it was broadcast -- >> dana: blame for the speech -- when you are a cabinet level officer -- you know, the other thing they said is that ambassador rice didn't have anything to do with benghazi. then why send her out to all the talk shows if she is going to be completely divorced from it? what were -- none of this make sense. believe me, when you have a breaking news event, you put the person who is most responsible and most knowledgeable on tv. it notice that none of the men stuck up for her. where is clapper? donilon? they let her, let her blame the video and they ruined her reputation. it blame the men. >> bob: they hung her out to try because nobody else would do it. hillary clinton wouldn't do it after colin powell's expe
it's going great in egypt, right, bob? great in egypt. >> bob: you have no evidence they ginned that up. ridiculous. >> eric: night of the attack i went to youtube to check it out. there were 3,000 views of that. there were more people protesting than who had seen the video at that point. >> bob: but it was broadcast -- >> dana: blame for the speech -- when you are a cabinet level officer -- you know, the other thing they said is that ambassador rice didn't have anything...
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egypt has certainly been in the forefront of these kinds of talks? >> yeah, that's what she's doing doing. meeting tonight, two hours with benjamin netanyahu, and senior officials, foreign minister, et cetera. and then she goes tomorrow, wednesday, to ramallah, where she meets with mahmoud abbas and cairo. and that's really the key, one of the keys, because the -- mohammed morsi has influence wih hamas and hopefully can do something. i think that he's right. they haven't been able to really change much of anything, and now the president who didn't want to get involved for a while or found that it was kind of useless not going anyplace is involved by sending dramatically the secretary of state. >> at some point, do you see the recognition of some sort of hamas? >> no, but i really have to disagree with my friend fuad. i don't think it's right to say barack obama is not pulled by the middle east and isn't fully committed to the same vision of peace between the israelis and the palestinians that bill clinton and george w. bush were. i think he has been
egypt has certainly been in the forefront of these kinds of talks? >> yeah, that's what she's doing doing. meeting tonight, two hours with benjamin netanyahu, and senior officials, foreign minister, et cetera. and then she goes tomorrow, wednesday, to ramallah, where she meets with mahmoud abbas and cairo. and that's really the key, one of the keys, because the -- mohammed morsi has influence wih hamas and hopefully can do something. i think that he's right. they haven't been able to...
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it can have a free life through its border with egypt that will happen is not if they got to do i would love to just stop attacking us right but ari i guess but did the same tock tick work last time in two thousand and eight for instance do you believe force will get the results you want. look we live in a tough neighborhood there is no mercy for the weak we need to understand that at the end of the day hamas is an organization that is ideologically committed to the idea that the jewish people are not equal they do not have the equal rights to have sovereignty and a state and self-determination in their homeland they deny the historic connection between the jewish people and israel they think we should have no right to be here and to be solver and to be equal this is their ideology we can only hope for several years of quiet we depend on being strong in an area where if we were only weak if we were to hand down our arms tomorrow israel would not exist we say very simply if hamas were to put down its arms there will be peace if we were asked to put down our arms there will be no israel s
it can have a free life through its border with egypt that will happen is not if they got to do i would love to just stop attacking us right but ari i guess but did the same tock tick work last time in two thousand and eight for instance do you believe force will get the results you want. look we live in a tough neighborhood there is no mercy for the weak we need to understand that at the end of the day hamas is an organization that is ideologically committed to the idea that the jewish people...
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and it looks like egypt played a role here. >> and i think egypt, that is significant indeed. because there are also concerns of president morsi and the rise of the muslim brotherhood, in exactly how they would play a role. he seems to be constructive, leaving instructions he was to be woke up if president morsi wanted to talk to him. and he was, indeed, woken at 2:30 in the morning. cambodia time, for another discussion. i would think that is very encouraging for the arab spring, almost everybody is concerned, turning on its head. you have the president looking to do a deal, work with america and indeed, israel. >> it seems like although at the very beginning he made some statements that were very questionable, supporting the hamas side. it seems to me over the last couple of days he has taken a much more balanced approach, certainly more than turkey. hopefully by doing that, he freezes iran out. because i have a sense, as many do, that iran was behind a lot of it. after all, many of the missiles were iranian missiles. so if morsi can assert himself, continue to assert himsel
and it looks like egypt played a role here. >> and i think egypt, that is significant indeed. because there are also concerns of president morsi and the rise of the muslim brotherhood, in exactly how they would play a role. he seems to be constructive, leaving instructions he was to be woke up if president morsi wanted to talk to him. and he was, indeed, woken at 2:30 in the morning. cambodia time, for another discussion. i would think that is very encouraging for the arab spring, almost...
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the president was heavily involved to making calls to egypt and israel. mahmoud abbas even took middle of the night phone calls and he dispatched secretary of state hillary clinton to close the cease-fire deal, which she did with shuttle diplomacy between the west bank and cairo. joining me is republican strategist boris epstein. richard, i'll begin with you, richard graham has been a hard critic of president obama. they are now hailing the cease-fire deal. they released a statement yesterday praising prime minister benjamin netanyahu for reaching the truce. however, did you notice no mention of president obama or secretary clinton? what do you make of that? >> honestly, that statement was sad and pathetic they cannot take off the partisan blinders at a time like this. and i think what it does is it hurts their credibility going forward in the international stage. they were ones very much on susan rice's back about benghazi and the possibility of her being secretary of state. but they have showed themselves being totally incapable of displaying any object
the president was heavily involved to making calls to egypt and israel. mahmoud abbas even took middle of the night phone calls and he dispatched secretary of state hillary clinton to close the cease-fire deal, which she did with shuttle diplomacy between the west bank and cairo. joining me is republican strategist boris epstein. richard, i'll begin with you, richard graham has been a hard critic of president obama. they are now hailing the cease-fire deal. they released a statement yesterday...
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and now that hamas has broken with damascus and is gravitating toward egypt egypt is the really big player here. it has several interests. it doesn't want to become responsible for gaza. it doesn't want the israelis to bomb cairo when a bomb comes from gaza but it would like to mediate an end to this crisis. >> jennifer: hussein said that he -- if i heard him correctly that iran and hamas, their ties were not as strong as many believe in terms of the weapons that are being supplied to hamas. is that your understanding as well? >> well, there had been a relationship between iran and hamas but what hussein was correctly saying was that hamas was in a position of supporting the iranians and the government in syria or of supporting the revolutionaries in syria who -- one large component of which is the muslim brotherhood. so most in hamas have now chosen the muslim brotherhood which means that they have broken with iran and with syria and they've instead oriented themselves toward egypt. so this is a big deal. there were a few iranian munitions that had been smuggled into gaza but most of the
and now that hamas has broken with damascus and is gravitating toward egypt egypt is the really big player here. it has several interests. it doesn't want to become responsible for gaza. it doesn't want the israelis to bomb cairo when a bomb comes from gaza but it would like to mediate an end to this crisis. >> jennifer: hussein said that he -- if i heard him correctly that iran and hamas, their ties were not as strong as many believe in terms of the weapons that are being supplied to...
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role as a mediator a role egypt has played in the past. well there's been a lot of discussion about this here in the region i mean you need to realize that the egyptian president mohamed morsi was unable to say the word is row up until a few days ago and it actually slipped off his tongue whether it was a mistake or whether it was a test of acknowledgement of israel is something that has stood the israeli public opinion and you can see a lot of that in the commentary pages of various newspapers egypt has come to the fore it is certainly playing a central role and this has always been the intention of the egyptian leadership was to put themselves back on the map we would have seen a very different type of mediation happening if it was the former egyptian president hosni mubarak so me it's well known that he was on the side of israel he did not carry the same kind of support and he would have gone that extra mile with her months to try and broker some kind of ceasefire or perhaps try and implement what we how witnessing not all from the gove
role as a mediator a role egypt has played in the past. well there's been a lot of discussion about this here in the region i mean you need to realize that the egyptian president mohamed morsi was unable to say the word is row up until a few days ago and it actually slipped off his tongue whether it was a mistake or whether it was a test of acknowledgement of israel is something that has stood the israeli public opinion and you can see a lot of that in the commentary pages of various newspapers...
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previously, egypt would have stepped in, in the past and helped to calm the chaos. now, their president morsi has said they will align themselves with the palestinians headed by now the muslim brotherhood, their new government. people have said that means that egypt plays a different role in this equation. what does it mean? >> first of all the relationship between israel and egypt is of mutual interest to both countries and the peace agreement is the bedrock of stability in this region. >> harris: is it in jeopardy? >> i think the peace agreement is not in jeopardy. we have to work together in order to stop hamas. people sometimes forget, what hamas is all about. hamas is an organization that basically doesn't see israel's right to exist. not just israel, it has on its charter genocide against jews not just in israel but all over the world. if you are a jew in the united states, hamas is after you. this organization has turned gaza, which -- purse cuting political opponents and oppressing minors, including christians, this is what we are up against. this organizati
previously, egypt would have stepped in, in the past and helped to calm the chaos. now, their president morsi has said they will align themselves with the palestinians headed by now the muslim brotherhood, their new government. people have said that means that egypt plays a different role in this equation. what does it mean? >> first of all the relationship between israel and egypt is of mutual interest to both countries and the peace agreement is the bedrock of stability in this region....
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it's also threatening security and peace in egypt and the egyptian territory. we have to remember just about two months ago in the high holiday of ramadan, the muslim holiday, terrorists murdered cold blooded 16 egyptian soldiers so the terror from hamas in gaza easily spills over into sinai. >> the israeli deputy foreign minister danny ayalon, take a look at your screen. these are live pictures, by the way, that you're looking at. an explosion in gaza city just after 4:00 in the afternoon there. we've been speaking to our sara sidner in gaza. she was telling us earlier that hamas police headquarters had been hit and showing us the damage there. she said the explosions continue. the streets are pretty well deserted except for a few cars here and there. certainly drones in the sky as well. the death toll, she told us, was up to about 39 in gaza, so once again here you can see smoke filling the air in gaza city just after 4:00 in the afternoon. some live pictures we'll keep an eye on for you. next up, the other side of the story from a member of the palestinian l
it's also threatening security and peace in egypt and the egyptian territory. we have to remember just about two months ago in the high holiday of ramadan, the muslim holiday, terrorists murdered cold blooded 16 egyptian soldiers so the terror from hamas in gaza easily spills over into sinai. >> the israeli deputy foreign minister danny ayalon, take a look at your screen. these are live pictures, by the way, that you're looking at. an explosion in gaza city just after 4:00 in the...
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that's egypt. while the air assault continues in gaza, violence increases, when's increased here is the anger by egyptians who want egypt and the government to step up and intervene. >> the people have changed. we have changed and we are not going to take that for -- we are not going to wait for the government to move. we'll take things in our hand and going to lead the government in to certain position that is required for egypt. >> reporter: roughly 500 protesters here. they have made a seven-hour journey of cairo and lined up down the street. each of them are showing their identifications to security forces and then heading in to gaza. we have asked them, when do you think they you'll come back? we don't know. we're happy to be going in. are you scared? >> yeah. i mean, absolutely i'm scared. you hear bombs. you don't know what you're going in there for but i think that's -- i think that's what we have to do. you have to be scared and overcome that fear going in there. >> reporter: as more demon
that's egypt. while the air assault continues in gaza, violence increases, when's increased here is the anger by egyptians who want egypt and the government to step up and intervene. >> the people have changed. we have changed and we are not going to take that for -- we are not going to wait for the government to move. we'll take things in our hand and going to lead the government in to certain position that is required for egypt. >> reporter: roughly 500 protesters here. they have...
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he is the one that was letting these rockets to go egypt and into gaza. he was giving a state visit by president morsi two months ago when she should have been indicted because he is indicted for genocide in darfur. everybody looks the other way. >> there is a big picture developments. one of them is influence of the muslim brotherhood. i think hamas wants to get everybody's attention. we want to speak on behalf of the islamic radicals in this country --. >> greta: if iran's supply they could be cut off. >> not only is that not happening but iran apparently continues toward a nuclear capability. when that happens, saudi arabia is going to have a nuclear capability. every country in the gulf area is going to be thinking about developing one. situation is going to be child's play compared to what it will be like then. i have more good news... it's thanksgiving. >> greta: hamas publicly executing six people. one was tied to the back of motorcycle and dragged through the streets. meanwhile, people are taking pictures. late tonight, bombs on both sides of bord
he is the one that was letting these rockets to go egypt and into gaza. he was giving a state visit by president morsi two months ago when she should have been indicted because he is indicted for genocide in darfur. everybody looks the other way. >> there is a big picture developments. one of them is influence of the muslim brotherhood. i think hamas wants to get everybody's attention. we want to speak on behalf of the islamic radicals in this country --. >> greta: if iran's supply...
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that egypt wants from us. not only u.s. aid, but help in getting this imf loan. and i think however this is resolved, because it's not going to resolve the long-term problem, perhaps it can help clarify hopefully in a good way the egyptian role. it could open up and just shatter that long-term linchpin of stability in the mideast between egypt and israel. >> woodruff: do you see a role for the u.s. in the short term? >> yes. in explaining quietly to egypt the essential nature of keeping the peace troty with israel and calming down the situation and probably the same quietly for israel which has, of course, bigger news -- --. >> i would say i think syria remains the most fragile thing. the explosion of syria would spill into everything else. so our role, i don't know what our role is in syria but i have a feeling our attention will be focused wherever it is. >> woodruff: margaret's reporting was excellent tonight. the two of you were excellent, ruth marcus, david brooks, thank you both. >> brown: and finally to
that egypt wants from us. not only u.s. aid, but help in getting this imf loan. and i think however this is resolved, because it's not going to resolve the long-term problem, perhaps it can help clarify hopefully in a good way the egyptian role. it could open up and just shatter that long-term linchpin of stability in the mideast between egypt and israel. >> woodruff: do you see a role for the u.s. in the short term? >> yes. in explaining quietly to egypt the essential nature of...
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egypt has certainly been in the forefront of these kinds of talks? >> yeah, that's what she's doing doing. meeting tonight, two hours with benjamin netanyahu, and senior officials, foreign minister, et cetera. and then she goes tomorrow, wednesday, to ramallah, where she meets with mahmoud abbas and cairo. and that's really the key, one of the keys, because the -- mohamed morsi has influence with hamas and hopefully can do something. i think that he's right. they haven't been able to really change much of anything, and now the president who didn't want to get involved for a while or found that it was kind of useless not going anyplace is involved by sending dramatically the secretary of state. >> at some point, do you see the recognition of some sort of hamas? >> no, but i really have to disagree with my friend fuad. i don't think it's right to say barack obama is not pulled by the middle east and isn't fully committed to the same vision of peace between the israelis and the palestinians that bill clinton and george w. bush were. i think he has been
egypt has certainly been in the forefront of these kinds of talks? >> yeah, that's what she's doing doing. meeting tonight, two hours with benjamin netanyahu, and senior officials, foreign minister, et cetera. and then she goes tomorrow, wednesday, to ramallah, where she meets with mahmoud abbas and cairo. and that's really the key, one of the keys, because the -- mohamed morsi has influence with hamas and hopefully can do something. i think that he's right. they haven't been able to...
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the most important meeting is tomorrow with egypt's president morsi. morsi wants american aid for the survival of egypt, and she wants morsi to really pressure hamas to pull back and come up with some permanent agreement. interestingly clinton was going only briefly to ramallah, to the west bank. it will be more than two years since she's been there. that tells you everything, that the more moderate branch of the palestinians really are irrelevant to all of this. the real power is political power, at least, with hamas. >> our chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell in d.c. tonight. andrea, thanks. >>> in this country we have been reporting on the rush among some big retailers out there to push the traditional black friday shopping day frenzy into thursday which, of course, is thanksgiving day. now, on top of that, it looks like if you plan on lining up outside your local walmart, you may have company in the form of protesters. our report tonight on all of it from nbc's kristen dahlgren. >> reporter: where they expect to see signs advertisin
the most important meeting is tomorrow with egypt's president morsi. morsi wants american aid for the survival of egypt, and she wants morsi to really pressure hamas to pull back and come up with some permanent agreement. interestingly clinton was going only briefly to ramallah, to the west bank. it will be more than two years since she's been there. that tells you everything, that the more moderate branch of the palestinians really are irrelevant to all of this. the real power is political...
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all of egypt securing its border with the gaza strip at? >> this is a very important issue. my honorable friend draws attention, and when that the president a couple days ago, we discussed the security in the sinai. is his crudely important for egypt to ensure there is such security. and i believe this situation and other incidents that happen over recent weeks demonstrate very clearly the need for that. and that it's very important to egypt to attend to that as well as bring about the piece for which we are calling. >> in the 38 agency us to help with the international community to put pressure on to get into gaza open so essential humanitarian supplies, clean water, food, medical supplies could get through. i acknowledge the foreign secretary has acknowledge the role of aid in this conflict, but not withstanding the possibility on both sides of the recent escalation. as he believed that the actions of israel have disproportionate impact on civilians at? >> i'm not going to take any further issue but you make a very important point about t
all of egypt securing its border with the gaza strip at? >> this is a very important issue. my honorable friend draws attention, and when that the president a couple days ago, we discussed the security in the sinai. is his crudely important for egypt to ensure there is such security. and i believe this situation and other incidents that happen over recent weeks demonstrate very clearly the need for that. and that it's very important to egypt to attend to that as well as bring about the...
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>> egypt is obviously in the spotlight. we don't really know exactly what the goals are for egypt. it's muddled. since taking power, the brotherhood decided to step back, you know, from the priest statements of strong support for hamas. it looks like hamas is in a better position. as steve points out. as a result of the arab spring, israelis are more vulnerable than they were a year ago. i think it is up to president obama to back up statements with serious reengaging with turkey and egypt right now. they might be having the talks but until the u.s. gets involved, i think there is not a likelihood of cease-fire. if there is one, it just seems in the absence of a political resolution, which seems hopeless at this point, it seems like it will be temporary. it won't be durable one. >> shannon: charles, talk about turkey. today, the prime minister there referred to israel as a terrorist state. that raised hackles here in washington and elsewhere. what do you make of it? >> it's win of the reason -- one of the reasons that hamas started this in the first place. they did with a barrage o
>> egypt is obviously in the spotlight. we don't really know exactly what the goals are for egypt. it's muddled. since taking power, the brotherhood decided to step back, you know, from the priest statements of strong support for hamas. it looks like hamas is in a better position. as steve points out. as a result of the arab spring, israelis are more vulnerable than they were a year ago. i think it is up to president obama to back up statements with serious reengaging with turkey and...
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now we're seeing that egypt is continuing to play that role. obviously in public israel has a much different stance than -- i'm sorry, egypt has a much different stance. officials have come to gaza. they have publicly said they're standing shoulder to shoulder with hamas and the palestinian people. they've called israel's action acts of aggression, they've called on it to stop, but they are also playing a very significant role and they are the key brokers now with israel, and as far as we know, they've been sitting face to face with an israeli envoy to hammer out a cease-fire which includes hamas and all the other players in this region. so the u.s. appears to be quite satisfied with what egypt is doing. u.s. has said they don't want to see a ground war while constantly saying that they obviously support israel's right to self-defense. >> and christiane what about the palestinians on the west bank not aligned with hamas. what is the palestinian government saying there? >> reporter: well, you know, again, this whole situation is such an almighty
now we're seeing that egypt is continuing to play that role. obviously in public israel has a much different stance than -- i'm sorry, egypt has a much different stance. officials have come to gaza. they have publicly said they're standing shoulder to shoulder with hamas and the palestinian people. they've called israel's action acts of aggression, they've called on it to stop, but they are also playing a very significant role and they are the key brokers now with israel, and as far as we know,...
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hamas has just come into force something being hammered out during marathon negotiations hosted by egypt israel's been pounding the palestinian territory with missiles in both the air and sea for more than a week in response to hamas says cross border rockets a correspondent in tel aviv reports on the much sought after troops. a ceasefire has been announced and agreed to by both israel and hamas this is the second time in two days that we've heard such an announcement but this time it so does seem as if it's accurate it was earlier at a press conference between the u.s. secretary of state hillary clinton and the egyptian foreign minister at that press conference clinton said that the u.s. was committed to making sure that these raids face an increased safety and security situation and also to improving the conditions of people in gaza and egypt for its side has said that cairo has a historical duty to represent and help the people of palestine now the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu earlier held a telephone call with the american president barack obama in that phone call he sai
hamas has just come into force something being hammered out during marathon negotiations hosted by egypt israel's been pounding the palestinian territory with missiles in both the air and sea for more than a week in response to hamas says cross border rockets a correspondent in tel aviv reports on the much sought after troops. a ceasefire has been announced and agreed to by both israel and hamas this is the second time in two days that we've heard such an announcement but this time it so does...